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		<title>By: norrwich union</title>
		<link>http://www.bobkestrut.com/2008/01/27/12-seconds-too-slow/#comment-152361</link>
		<dc:creator>norrwich union</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;norrwich union...&lt;/strong&gt;

puddling.starfish weirdly engineered ...</description>
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<p>puddling.starfish weirdly engineered &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: american fidelity</title>
		<link>http://www.bobkestrut.com/2008/01/27/12-seconds-too-slow/#comment-152146</link>
		<dc:creator>american fidelity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;american fidelity...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bathurst Southfield hooker ferment coast fanfare?...</description>
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<p>Bathurst Southfield hooker ferment coast fanfare?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...pietro &#38; brett...the treviso worlds course was considered to be quite slick early in the day, when the women raced...the night time freeze was melting &#38; in certain areas conditions were apparently considered treacherous,  but that may be due to a lot of fast sections w/ in the layout...
...by the time the men raced it was dry, traction-y &#38; fast...

...that info came through rachel lloyd's personal mechanic, who admittedly wasn't there due to funding issues but he's talked w/ rach since...
...i didn't think to ask but i assume usacycling provided pit support...

...thanks for the direction, brews, but i'm just gonna naively hope for the best in people &#38; their consideration of others...

...by the way, we just lost one of the most erudite &#38; generous men in the cycling community w/ the passing of sheldon brown...never met him but i thought the world of him...RIP, good sir...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;pietro &amp; brett&#8230;the treviso worlds course was considered to be quite slick early in the day, when the women raced&#8230;the night time freeze was melting &amp; in certain areas conditions were apparently considered treacherous,  but that may be due to a lot of fast sections w/ in the layout&#8230;<br />
&#8230;by the time the men raced it was dry, traction-y &amp; fast&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;that info came through rachel lloyd&#8217;s personal mechanic, who admittedly wasn&#8217;t there due to funding issues but he&#8217;s talked w/ rach since&#8230;<br />
&#8230;i didn&#8217;t think to ask but i assume usacycling provided pit support&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;thanks for the direction, brews, but i&#8217;m just gonna naively hope for the best in people &amp; their consideration of others&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;by the way, we just lost one of the most erudite &amp; generous men in the cycling community w/ the passing of sheldon brown&#8230;never met him but i thought the world of him&#8230;RIP, good sir&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brewmeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>brewmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole confederacy issue in the south is more nuanced than many people realize. If you are intrigued get a copy of Confederates in the Attic by war zone journalist Tony Horwitz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole confederacy issue in the south is more nuanced than many people realize. If you are intrigued get a copy of Confederates in the Attic by war zone journalist Tony Horwitz.</p>
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		<title>By: pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BGW-
I can offer no explanation about how a Confederate battle flag ended up in Monopoli, Italy for the cyclocross world championships. I've been riding a bike in North Carolina since 1986 and from my personal experience the crossover between the demographic with the predilection to proudly display a Confederate battle flag and the demographic to attend a cyclocross race in Italy would be zero. Truly a mystery, that Graham Watson photo.

Brett-
I think part of the reason why the worlds in Treviso were essentially a dirt criterium was due to the good weather. If it was pouring down rain that course would have been much sketchier and put more of a premium on bike handling skills as opposed to sheer road-esque fitness. Some of the courses in Belgium would probably be more to your liking based on some video I've seen, what I witnessed first-hand in Koksijde last November, and comments from American pros about their difficulty. Of course, if you're averse to sand then Koksijde would be your worst nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BGW-<br />
I can offer no explanation about how a Confederate battle flag ended up in Monopoli, Italy for the cyclocross world championships. I&#8217;ve been riding a bike in North Carolina since 1986 and from my personal experience the crossover between the demographic with the predilection to proudly display a Confederate battle flag and the demographic to attend a cyclocross race in Italy would be zero. Truly a mystery, that Graham Watson photo.</p>
<p>Brett-<br />
I think part of the reason why the worlds in Treviso were essentially a dirt criterium was due to the good weather. If it was pouring down rain that course would have been much sketchier and put more of a premium on bike handling skills as opposed to sheer road-esque fitness. Some of the courses in Belgium would probably be more to your liking based on some video I&#8217;ve seen, what I witnessed first-hand in Koksijde last November, and comments from American pros about their difficulty. Of course, if you&#8217;re averse to sand then Koksijde would be your worst nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they have to make 'cross courses like a military training obstacle course.    I rode a few up in Santa Cruz, and they would run us through the old sawdust piles at a redwood sawmill...ever try to ride or  run over a pile of sawdust the size of a Mack truck...I guess there's a shortage of natural terrain.  I've ridden some decent ones down here in SoCal, through parks ,etc...but enough with the SAND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do they have to make &#8216;cross courses like a military training obstacle course.    I rode a few up in Santa Cruz, and they would run us through the old sawdust piles at a redwood sawmill&#8230;ever try to ride or  run over a pile of sawdust the size of a Mack truck&#8230;I guess there&#8217;s a shortage of natural terrain.  I&#8217;ve ridden some decent ones down here in SoCal, through parks ,etc&#8230;but enough with the SAND.</p>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...well that clears up that mystery,(sorry, brews, i wasn't very informed on that one) but it also begs the question::: who's waving the stars n' bars around in italia ???...i thought the genteel south was edging away from that kinda thing or maybe i'm not well informed about anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;well that clears up that mystery,(sorry, brews, i wasn&#8217;t very informed on that one) but it also begs the question::: who&#8217;s waving the stars n&#8217; bars around in italia ???&#8230;i thought the genteel south was edging away from that kinda thing or maybe i&#8217;m not well informed about anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pietro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brewmeister-
Here's a Graham Watson photo from the 2003 Monopoli, Italy world championships: 

http://tinyurl.com/ypgdqq

I bet that's what you remember...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brewmeister-<br />
Here&#8217;s a Graham Watson photo from the 2003 Monopoli, Italy world championships: </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ypgdqq" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ypgdqq</a></p>
<p>I bet that&#8217;s what you remember&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brewmeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>brewmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mille grazie,
prima: that clears that up (can't do that in italiano)
i finire: I know I saw a battle flag(or so I thought) on a video of the CX worlds at Monopoli. It seems like I've seen it since then. But I am 55+ and we get to make up stuff! I'll have to dig that back out and double check.
Ciao
HH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mille grazie,<br />
prima: that clears that up (can&#8217;t do that in italiano)<br />
i finire: I know I saw a battle flag(or so I thought) on a video of the CX worlds at Monopoli. It seems like I&#8217;ve seen it since then. But I am 55+ and we get to make up stuff! I&#8217;ll have to dig that back out and double check.<br />
Ciao<br />
HH</p>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...may i ???...brews, i'd assume first you are talking about the black &#38; white flag of brittany...stripes represent dioceses within bretagne &#38; the "stars" are actually ermine,  which represent purity...ol' glory definitely predates it as it was only designed in 1923 although it's  components are historical...

...secondly, i'm wondering if you're referring to the basque ikurrina which has green diagonal bars on a supposedly red field, although every version i've seen looks orange...it also has a white cross on it &#38; no stars, so i'm not sure  if i'm talking about the one you've seen...rsvp...

...for an awesome flag &#38; i saw photos of them at worlds, the welsh flag or cymru  y draig goch is a standout...a fierce red dragon on a field of white on top &#38; brilliant green on the bottom... 

...hope i helped...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;may i ???&#8230;brews, i&#8217;d assume first you are talking about the black &amp; white flag of brittany&#8230;stripes represent dioceses within bretagne &amp; the &#8220;stars&#8221; are actually ermine,  which represent purity&#8230;ol&#8217; glory definitely predates it as it was only designed in 1923 although it&#8217;s  components are historical&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;secondly, i&#8217;m wondering if you&#8217;re referring to the basque ikurrina which has green diagonal bars on a supposedly red field, although every version i&#8217;ve seen looks orange&#8230;it also has a white cross on it &amp; no stars, so i&#8217;m not sure  if i&#8217;m talking about the one you&#8217;ve seen&#8230;rsvp&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;for an awesome flag &amp; i saw photos of them at worlds, the welsh flag or cymru  y draig goch is a standout&#8230;a fierce red dragon on a field of white on top &amp; brilliant green on the bottom&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;hope i helped&#8230;</p>
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